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		<title>By: Andy Oh</title>
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		<description>I also wonder how many takes this girl had to do until she found one that she deemed worthy of, then, altering on photoshop. But maybe we are being to harsh it was the lens bending er whatever hehe

It&#039;s true what you say in regards to facebook social taboos/implications of the stupidest things like a status update or simply clicking the &quot;like&quot; button. I guess this sort of self-conscious awareness manifests into me doing the minimal possible &quot;broadcasting&quot; or, as you said, minimal text when conveying ideas or immediate thoughts. Then again, I bet some people honestly don&#039;t give two shits about any of this and speak their heart out onto facebook :P

But this question of identity is really confusing to me, especially when I see how others and I deal with it. For example, I just read this loosely related article the other day:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8381874.stm

I&#039;m making a big leap from facebook nuance to self-recognized national identity, but the correlation I&#039;m trying to draw is that people are obsessed with associating (or dissociating) from others in order to gain a higher place in a particular social hierarchy. Perhaps this facebook sociopolitical blah blah reflects a bigger crisis of identity. The idea of self is so complicated and convoluted in this globalized, fast paced, interwebz driven world, that people can&#039;t seem to make sense of it all.

Even though this notion of nationalism doesn&#039;t always deal directly with how peeps self-consciously interact with peers, it ultimately does. I have a friend who is half Scottish and half Irish and he strongly identifies with his &quot;Nordic&quot; roots despite not knowing Gaelic, never living in the UK, never living in a Nordic culture, etc. But he DOES listen to Flogging Molly and soundtracks from The Departed. You know what I mean? He even gets drunk and praises the plight of the Fighting Irish and how hard immigration and discrimination was back in the day. Why doesn&#039;t he identify as American? Is it because the crowds he mingles with ironically bash the shit out of America and reap its benefits in silence? But it&#039;s true, America does blow on so many levels. So how is a citizen and consumer of the world supposed to reconcile the perceived mainstream and the perceived &quot;underground&quot; when both play a large role in their lives?

Maybe people have way more license to self-identify these days? Have big tits always been desirable? Have people historically wanted to be Irish? Hell no, this shit changes with every age and law.

Now on a completely unrelated note: have you seen &quot;The Obama Deception&quot; on YouTube? The documentary is flawed and is ultimately a sales pitch but it forms lots of lines of inquiries if you have two hours to burn. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also wonder how many takes this girl had to do until she found one that she deemed worthy of, then, altering on photoshop. But maybe we are being to harsh it was the lens bending er whatever hehe</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true what you say in regards to facebook social taboos/implications of the stupidest things like a status update or simply clicking the &#8220;like&#8221; button. I guess this sort of self-conscious awareness manifests into me doing the minimal possible &#8220;broadcasting&#8221; or, as you said, minimal text when conveying ideas or immediate thoughts. Then again, I bet some people honestly don&#8217;t give two shits about any of this and speak their heart out onto facebook <img src='http://www.hearandsay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But this question of identity is really confusing to me, especially when I see how others and I deal with it. For example, I just read this loosely related article the other day:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8381874.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8381874.stm</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m making a big leap from facebook nuance to self-recognized national identity, but the correlation I&#8217;m trying to draw is that people are obsessed with associating (or dissociating) from others in order to gain a higher place in a particular social hierarchy. Perhaps this facebook sociopolitical blah blah reflects a bigger crisis of identity. The idea of self is so complicated and convoluted in this globalized, fast paced, interwebz driven world, that people can&#8217;t seem to make sense of it all.</p>
<p>Even though this notion of nationalism doesn&#8217;t always deal directly with how peeps self-consciously interact with peers, it ultimately does. I have a friend who is half Scottish and half Irish and he strongly identifies with his &#8220;Nordic&#8221; roots despite not knowing Gaelic, never living in the UK, never living in a Nordic culture, etc. But he DOES listen to Flogging Molly and soundtracks from The Departed. You know what I mean? He even gets drunk and praises the plight of the Fighting Irish and how hard immigration and discrimination was back in the day. Why doesn&#8217;t he identify as American? Is it because the crowds he mingles with ironically bash the shit out of America and reap its benefits in silence? But it&#8217;s true, America does blow on so many levels. So how is a citizen and consumer of the world supposed to reconcile the perceived mainstream and the perceived &#8220;underground&#8221; when both play a large role in their lives?</p>
<p>Maybe people have way more license to self-identify these days? Have big tits always been desirable? Have people historically wanted to be Irish? Hell no, this shit changes with every age and law.</p>
<p>Now on a completely unrelated note: have you seen &#8220;The Obama Deception&#8221; on YouTube? The documentary is flawed and is ultimately a sales pitch but it forms lots of lines of inquiries if you have two hours to burn. <img src='http://www.hearandsay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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